jayme_takineth ([info]james_takineth) wrote,
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hmmm i'm going to give a big rant here to get it all out of my system, this is all about MSF, IRC and such! So be Warned...



Ok im going to start this off, with a simple subject.. IRC.. we all know that IRC is riddled with problems, and is one of the big reasons that the board's activity has declined over the past year, nobody can deny that, nor can they deny that alot of MSF's problems seem to start at MSF, my first part of the rant will be about some of the problems in IRC...

1) TFs: 365+ days ago, there was a total of 2 TFers on IRC, these TFers handled the TFs and the reversals of said TFs, things ran smoothly and it was a fun system. Now I know with time, things change, nothing can stay the same. However, at the current date, almost all regulars on #MSF, seem to have some kind of TF method even if they rarely use it, whether it be from TF Water to something that their character built or bought, everyone seems to have the ability to TF people. This leads me into the next part.. Reversals seem to be another thing, everyone seems to have the ability to reverse their own or someone else's TF, dont get me wrong, I know there is a rule that says you can deny any TF ya want, but I got this whole feeling that if ya accept the TF, ya should hold onto at least 6 hours, out of if nothing else... respect for the one who TF'd ya!

2: Abilities: Things used to be original, and they used to be fun. We had healers, and fighters, different branches, different abilities, but now, when something needs done, everyone jumps and suddenly has the ability to do it, from healing to building something, to a super-rare item find, everyone seems to have it, or are able to do it. "Hey, I seem to have lost an arm... and am losing massive amounts of bloo--- *faints*" "(Everyone) Oh my *heals person and their arm reforms* XD great minds think alike I guess, hehe" everyone can fight, everyone can do everything and when nothing is fun to do anymore, you find something as ability-less as a Human, a grand and wonderful thing to be.

Those are the two biggest problems, and they seem to span other problems, such as people getting upset, and people not feeling needed as something they once did was now nothing more than a parlor trick you could learn from the back of a comic book, and you have to admit, if you controlled something such as Scientific and Robotics, and then the next day, everyone RPed making things with the same technique... making it just another run of the mill average method and technique of doing things, you get annoyed and might even say "Screw it, if everyone does it, why bother with it..." it could even make things stop being fun, and might make you leave MSF, or get totally annoyed at MSF and snap for no reason, the same can be said for TFers, after so long of their TFs being shrugged off like nothing, the TFer may begin to give up upon TFs, even if TFing people is fun for them...

3: The Mod System: First off I will admit it a good portion of the mods deserve their spot, even Goose the newest Mod of MSF, but there are some rather by inactiveness or Poor-Modness that should be demoted faster than some seem to be promoted! Now that I said that, ill go on record as stating that MSF is in no way suffering from a shortage of mods, nor are mods needed for anything at ALL, if anything we need LESS Mods! Mods in MSF mainly have to enforce the rules over their boards, they aren't needed to "bring a more positive attitude to MSF" because ANY user can do that... anything a mod can do a user can do just as well if not better, but people dont seem to understand that, instead they think being a mod gives them a holy power that emits positivity around them, but it dont, you dont need a mod position to do anything in MSF. Most times Users do a better job at ensuring positivity more than the mods do!

On the same system, the Mods have been known to talk about how the Users disrespect them, and ignore them, and how they treat them a certain way... but respect is supposed to be a 2-way deal, you give respect, you get respect. Respect is something you earn, and is alot quicker to lose than it is to earn, so if the Mod doesnt respect the User, then the User will not respect the mod! Also if a User disagree's with a Mod, and has their own opinion that is against the Mods, no matter what it may be, and they dispute the Mod's idea, that is NOT disrespect in anyway, its called having free will... Some people are like me, they will not kiss the butt of any mod and/or Admin for any reason. Heck the first goal of a Mod/Admin should be to connect with the User, not to drive a wedge between the two sides by stupid actions!

Also "Mod Powers" what the hell, there are no mod powers, or their shouldn't be of course, from what ive seen though, most of the Mod's seem to have a TF Ability... that is undodgable, that right there is crap to begin with. *rolls eyes* The Mods will go out there and say "Dont treat us any differently than ya would anyone else, we're no different from any of you ^_^" but then they go and somehow get 'flexibility' on rules and systems and things like that, and 'Mod Powers' that can be 'abused' WTF?! there shouldn't be any mod powers, and then they turn around after talking about all of that and say "oh but there's nothing special about being a mod, nope...' no offense to any of the Mods, but Mod Powers and Mod Sticks are all a pile of crap, Mod's shouldn't get any special power or privileges just for being a mod.. puh Mods are not Mods, they are just users with fancy titles in my book...

Now ill confess something, I said a few months ago I didn't wanna be a mod anymore, yanno why because I had this stupid suspicion, that my publicly stating I wanted to be a mod hurt my chances so if I pretended not to want it, it might help, but I wont lie while the mods have their problems, and some are just as disrespectful as some of the Users they comment on, I want to be one. Not for power or any of that, ill gladly take the responsiblity, and I know there isn't anything that being a mod will help me with. I can do anything a mod can right now, I can help people and whatever, I simply want it to prove I can get it, ill hold the responsiblity true and dear and whatever. Thats my reason for wanting it.. to show that I can.

4: Other Things: This may or may not coincide with anything ive ranted about thus far, but I will discuss it here, the first being my demotion from mentor, it was brought up again last night, so im going to bring it up again. I was demoted because a certain mod made a snap decision to do so, the admin over the whole system thought I resigned, and the head mod - Duck, was just as confused as I was when he found out.

So tonight I was told by this mod, that it wasn't just him, I had a hand in my demotion, this struck something in my head... 1) why was I at fault? and 2) how was I a bad role model with my rants? I began to think and almost immediately it hit me!

Why was I at fault? because I was honest, because everytime I ranted I shook the very foundation that MSF stood on by voicing MSF problems to the public! So how can they take away from the look of a problem, they can turn me into the problem, by demoting me, or fingering me as the bad guy... but here's the thing, while blunt, I am usually always honest, so when I rant as much as I did a few months ago, it should've been "Hey.. yanno he's on IRC alot, maybe there really is a problem we should be looking at here..." but NO! it wasn't instead there was "*sigh* James ranted again, what a whiner, whine whine whine..." "James is such a trouble maker *le sigh*"

How was I a bad role model for newer members... I wasn't, I realized tonight some of the members of MSF, respected me alot for my rants, so how could I be a bad role model, if I was earning respect for my rants, not disgust or dislike by new people and even still if I was a bad role model, a second chance, a warning, something would've been desired, but that would be too much to ask for I suppose.

Also another thing, if the mods are going to say "Dont talk behind so and so's back" then they should have the same courtesy their trying to spread, and not to talk about people behind there's while expecting them never to find out. Yeah, I know ALL about that thread that was within the Mod Room about me labeled "James"... yeah I read your comments, too bad none of you came to my face about it, I might've not been so upset about it, but meh you cant change it now, I guess certain comments are best not made to the face of the one your going to slanderize, huh?! So how's you talking behind people's backs like they dont have feelings any different from me being a "Bad Role Model" in your eyes.. in my case I was just a mentor, but your freaking mods...

Anyways, a second chance is not too much to ask for, it might be pressing it with some people, who dont know me, but have already formed judgments about me. Why can I have one, why cant I have a second chance, to not be reminded of my past mistakes at every turn, to not be looked as the whiner, or whatever, it might be hard because im blunt.. to the point of not holding anything back, but it'd be helpful...


Anyways... Thats my MSF Rant, I might add other things later, but thats it for now, dunno if anybody will read it, but meh, I had to get it off my chest or I might've went after someone later :S

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[info]kumi_chanmuu

June 5 2005, 15:39:02 UTC 6 years ago

Jayme you know that I think you'd be a great mod. You have the ability to get people involved even if they don't want to be. And you know I care deeply about Goose he is one of our best friends. As I said yesterday to him. "You DON'T need to be a mod to do anything. If I want to do anything I'll do it without asking most of the time. And when I do ask by time the mod responds I either don't care enough to do it or have already done it."
As for the talking behind others backs. I may not have seen it but I know people. The mods do talk about me behind my back. How do I know? I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm smart. I mean really smart. I figure out things before most people. I'm creative and happy. But people always want me to wait for them. *shrugs* Plus one time I did hear a mod mention that there are threads that have reasons why I could never be a mod. I heard this about Jayme too. I sometimes think that there is a list of people that is in the mod room that says who shouldn't be a mod. And I'm probably right. If there is same on you mods for not giving a person that is loved by all the normal members even a chance at all. I might say I don't care about being a mod but there are times when I do. *shrugs*

Keep in mind I don't normally rant and I'm sorry for doing it here Jayme but I just get tired of being told that I'm bad becasue I speak my mind and because I have a different set of rule then MSF. I try to repect the rules and the mods but when a mod says something that I feel is wrong that they shouldn't control then I'm seen as disrespectable just because I think in my own way. *shrugs*
As for TFs most of the time I'll remain in a form for a long time + 6 hours. And my other characters, Ken was in a form for over 2 weeks. Amy hasn't been TFed but she isn't in the main room to much. Kasumi can't be unless she is stupid and lets it happen on accident. Kolie was human until you reserved the TF the other day. And now Ken is still succubus.So I have no problem keeping TFs. It is not a bad thing to have a few people TFing. But sometimes they just get thrown away.

And as for my characters Amy is a seamstress nothing more. She'll never be able to fight or use any other magics. Ken is a computer boy with a bad attitude. But what happens to him depends upon everyone at MSF. Kolie and Kasumi are just there right now but they each have their own set powers.

*hugs Jayme* I guess I'll shut up now. *winks*

[info]marcusgalen

June 6 2005, 00:45:01 UTC 6 years ago

I agree with everything Kumi said, and I'll be honest, I violate the TF permanance, occasionally. Curse of an addled and easily distracted mind, I guess. I've said this a few times, I'll try my darndest to keep forms.

Fiori, Varla, and Rinra are going to be experiments....challanges to myself to keep my charas in one form.

*puts on a "James for mod" button*

[info]ussarizona

June 6 2005, 14:47:27 UTC 6 years ago

Well, we all know where I stand on this James.
I have known you since I first joined MSF. Honestly, you were the very FIRST one to befriend me, and as such, will always have a special place in my thoughts for you. You really are a great person and you are very creative on top of all of that. I know, it seems like I am just lauding you, but there is a reason I am saying all of this.
James, I can see your point, but I can also see theirs as well.
I am willing to bet that there is a thread about each and every member (Well, maybe not all of us!) in the MOD room. Probably one about me as well. You see, it all comes down to politics. In order to be a MOD here or anywhere else, you need to play the politics and play the game. Whether you know it or not, you WERE playing the game. Your rants, as you so eloquently put it, rocked MSF to its core foundations. Your rants showed people what the users of MSF, the ones that really COUNT, thought that there were some major problems going on with the whole establishment. When you go up against an established regime (and whether they like to believe it or not it IS a regime...(and maybe it should be as well!!!)) you are playing the politics. These rants were threatening to the established set up in their eyes. And frankly, I don't blame them. Put yourself in their shoes. If someone was just sitting there, totally complaining about what they did and what they were, it undermines the little bit of authority they even have! While it truely may not be that much, it is still there, still a part of the system. MODs do have a little bit of power for a reason. They need to be able to excercise control over their forums if they need to. I have seen posters entirely ruin a community before because they MODs did not stop them from interfering. While I do not believe this is what you were trying to do at ALL, they might have been seeing it as that. It is also a reason that you were probably blackballed for MODship!
At one time, Sakura actually told me something. She told me that she thought 'What would happen if I made Mana a MOD?' You know what she thought? She thought that because of certain actions of mine, I would be too hotheaded as a MOD. You know what? Later, she admited that she may have been incorrect about me. But, I respect her for what she said and what she did, both on my behalf and on behalf of the community.
James, I also agree with what you have said. It is true that MODs are mainly users that have a title... and that is about it! However, they do have the responsibilities that you touched on, and therefore should be given a certain amount of respect. Not the hand of God respect, just respect. While respect should be and is a mutual thing, respect should be given to those that keep our forums clean and help make sure that everything in our community that we love so much runs smoothly.
MODship... it can cause many problems. I remember one specific instance when it was between two people... and there was almost a splintering of MSF behind each one until they came together and decided, with Sakura's help, to resolve the issue.
I love ya like a brother James. Please know that. But we sometimes need to think about the long term consequences of our short term actions and feelings... especially in the case of a place where people are already on edge for some of the very reasons that brought us together. We came here to find friends of like minds, and we all did! That should be the most precious thing that we could ever hope to walk away from MSF with. Friends that have a like mind as us and will stand next to us through think and thin.

I know that I found that, James, in you and in many others.
I hope that you did in me and will continue to with others.
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